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Yes. I think, and I searched a lot on the internet, only here, in this forum, there's a real evolution about the historical paper soldier ( as already I have said to some of you these artworks exceed the quality of many digital products for sale on RPGNow. So I am a little sad that they are not sold ).

Authors ( and gamers ) from United States and other european countries prefer to draw not-historical "paper miniatures" ( fantasy, sci-fi, strampunk, survival horror ... ) to use with their games ( RPGs, not-historical wargames, boardgames ...). Often these are great products. But they are not "paper soldiers." This is because it is easier to draw them imho (historical accuracy is not needed), but mainly because they are derived from 32 mm. metal miniatures as warhammer eg, and they are not the evolution of the "paper soldiers" ( which is a tradition that has become much more than one hundred years ) imho.

So I'm very lucky that I found here the "Law of spiral development".

Even here in Italy the situation is more or less equal. Indeed, perhaps it is worse. Basically here there is not a current paper figures' ( paper soldiers or paper minis ) production. There is only a small group of enthusiasts and collectors who collects old sheets of paper soldiers and their digital reproductions.

To tell the whole truth. A very good author, here in Italy, there is. Vittorio GORINI. I really like his plates ( they are real paper soldiers. As they used to be. Sadly, for me, for various right reasons his figures have no backs. I prefer figures with drawn rear ).

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He has studied for years uniforms, the indian war colors ... before drawing his figures. But there are not digital files of his works . He only sells paper sheets.

I pass to other subject. Are you interested in seeing sheets of very old ( 1920 ... 1950 ... ) paper soldiers representing Russian warriors and soldiers products in other uropean countries ( Spain, France, Italy ...) ?

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Rhannon написал(а):

Sadly, for me, for various right reasons his figures have no backs. I prefer figures with drawn rear ).

Actually, one side paper soldiers are considered to be "classical" in collectors' society. And those, which we producing, these gents calls "new-fangled". :D
But we also like both-side soldiers more.

Here, on the site, we can open special sub-forum for old "classic". Sure, it will be very interesting for everybody.

Regarding selling of our works: here we decided to make it free. Not all parents has enough money to buy such things, and we wants to make it easier even for the poorest kids to catch good quality toys. We would like to spread our figures as wide, as it possible. In ideal case - worldwide. :D

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Vittorio GORINI is new for me but is very good sad the digitalization is not very good good
i will love to make the back sides of waterloo, interesting figure movement but need make all thing from base since the front
is not good enough to 54 mm our to use it to make back side, still quality enough to see what is and how is make, thanks for post it :D

Yes I will love see your collection
continue the good work :D :D

Отредактировано Luzitanos (19.01.15 19:51:28)

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Luzitanos написал(а):

Vittorio GORINI is new for me but is very good sad the digitalization is not very good good
i will love to make the back sides of waterloo, interesting figure movement but need make all thing from base since the front
is not good enough to 54 mm our to use it to make back side, still quality enough to see what is and how is make, thanks for post it :D

Yes I will love see your collection
continue the good work :D :D

Отредактировано Luzitanos (Сегодня 17:51:28)

Hi Luzitanos, first of all, excuse me for my rough English, please.

V. Gorini doesn't produce uniforms' tables in digital format. So these are not in high definition. And in effect these aren't uniforms' tables but new "old paper soldiers" sheets.

They are the ones that he has placed on his website for the sheets' sale. http://www.goriniart.com/index.htm

Mainly Vittorio, now that he is retired, paints pictures and he like horses and uniforms as subjects. Then his passion for paper soldiers led him to draw some tables.

Ciao

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Thanks for the heads up and the link :)

About english my one is not good to :D

but human minds can automatic correct the text eh eh

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Rhannon , а есть кирасиры в более крупном размере?

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not yet

but i make one of scotish
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http://www.goriniart.com/index.htm
я может не правильно искал, но этого в яндексе вообще нет, у кого-то этот сайт открывался? :writing:  :blush:

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открылось :jumping:

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во блин буржуй... 85 европейских тугриков за листы односторонних солдатиков... Было бы хорошее качество исходников, из вредности бы перерисовал в двухсторонние и выложил в бесплатный доступ  :mad:

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да резкости нет :dontknow:

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но тема 7 несчастного полка классная, хороши рисунки :yep:

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Инженер написал(а):

во блин буржуй... 85 европейских тугриков за листы односторонних солдатиков... Было бы хорошее качество исходников, из вредности бы перерисовал в двухсторонние и выложил в бесплатный доступ

Ну... Если у человека это единственный источник дохода - почему бы и нет? каждый зарабатывает, как умеет.  :dontknow:
Но вот в этом ты прав - это не наш метод. :flag:

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I am not sut if the google translate your comments correctly
but I got the feeling
1-you guys does not want me to do more
2 that the source was open in good quality

I do it this way:
the Front was worked manually to lncrease the quality
and other face manualy careful outlined
-parts manually painted
-parts assembled and retouched

Отредактировано Luzitanos (22.01.15 13:00:16)

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Google obviously translated something incorrect! :D  There were no one negative word about your works - everything is brilliant like usual. And everybody like you to proceed.
Discussion was about author's soldiers: resolution is not very high and, especially, price is... ugh...  :glasses:
As you know, we have another point of view - all our soldiers are free. But, of course, he have all rights to do what he wants - he is the author. This was the main meaning in our discussion. :flag:

Regarding your works: it looks much better, than original one. If you will proceed, it will be great!

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Ok nice :)
yah 85 euros seams an huge amount principaly with only one side is a vast of good work is why i make the other side, but as you say, he is the Author but as an author myself i like when some one use my work, because that it means the work touch some one, and in the process of the use he learns something, as i do when do it with the work of others.

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Correct! :cool:

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нда поглядел я сайт... Ну что сказать? Нарисованно(а точнее срисованно) нормально.. чем хороши енти фигурки- из них можно виньетки лепить... А срисованны это точно почти целиком все взято из каталогов зиннфигурен, и иллюстраций из сети... кто видел иллюстрации Теленика и эскизы под плоских от зиннфигурен тот поймет. Особенно карабинеры... так что я не совсем понимаю за что такая цена.. Хотя он хзяин...

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1:72 - это засада. Я почти полторы тысячи своих просто отдал нафиг. Потому что понял, что в жизни всю эту орду лиллипутов не раскрашу. :D  А у 28-го имхо пропорции нарушены. Солдаты выглядят гоблинами, как у Валкерлоо. Не, лучше уж 54мм по кепку.

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Вот, нарыл на итальянских сайтах:

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:cool:здорово

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:cool:

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это нам приоткрыли интернет на пароходе... :D  Четвёртые сутки без ограничений.

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ABC 1980-81 - Volume 25 - n°2 - Author: K. Toman

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